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You are the one preparing the soil by your openness, your willingness, your joyful-giving attitude, and, above all, your heart and your being intentioned toward God.
— John-Roger, DSS

Thursday, February 19, 2009

Time to Seed

Go figure!

California finally got its budget together. Here are the highlights:

It included billions of dollars in cuts to schools, healthcare institutions, higher education and programs for the poor. If signed by Schwarzenegger, who helped devise the package, it also would raise personal income taxes and the state sales tax, although a 12-cent per-gallon increase in gasoline taxes was eliminated in the final hours.

Most of California’s expenses are compensation paid to current or former government employees.


I am not speechless, but I do not have anything positive to say.

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Some of the news has become so negative that people have become addicted to it. A new term has entered the lexicon—pessimism porn. I think there is something in human nature that envisions apocalyptic events. I am not inclined that way, although I must acknowledge that the events around the world in the last century from the concentration camps, gulags, and killing fields, etc., must have seemed that way to the people involved. Nevertheless, there is still so much to be grateful for, and I believe that the essential goodness of human nature will come through and triumph in these times.

Along with this is another aspect of human nature which tends to think that a trend is everlasting. When the Dow was at 12,000 someone wrote a book entitled Why the Dow will Go to 35,000. It closed at a new low today around 7,200. When oil was at $125, Goldman, Sachs predicted it would go to $200. It closed around $35 today.

Now that we are in a economic downtrend there is a tendency for people to see it going all the way to the depths of hell. And of course for some people hell is not being able to buy what they want to.

For a good laugh at it all see this 4 minute clip from comedian Louis C K on The Conan O’Brian Show.

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Which brings us to: It’s time to seed. Here is some inspiration for you.

When you seed, you need to do it with the real faith of the heart. You have to claim what you seed for, but you have to claim it in God’s time and love.

You state what you want very clearly. Then you claim it as already being here, which is conditioning the consciousness. To receive, you need to act as though you have it; this is the faith statement that it is already present.

Faith seeding is powerful. The faith is claiming that you will receive prior to it coming to you. Faith is also basking in gratefulness for the grace of Divinity showered on you because you have seeded. And you did it joyfully.


(John-Roger DSS from God Is Your Partner)

Posted by Paul Kaye at 5:37 PM
Keywords: Seeding, The Economy
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Monday, February 16, 2009

In the Midst of the Meltdown 2


What is the work that you’re here to do? The most immediate thing in front of you, and there are two choices: either live under the law of karma or live under God’s grace of loving. You can have your choice. And the grace of God did not say for one minute that you won’t have any pain. It just said you can live in the Spirit while you walk through this world.

--John-Roger, DSS

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I have been to many poor countries over the years and also those that were in the midst of a financial crisis, and one thing always struck me—people were getting by. So, we will get by.

Then what does this all mean? To me it has more to do with a change in expectations than in reality. If you are living your life according to a set of spiritually based principles and values, then the probability is that you will sail through this period of time. For those who do have not a set of solid principles the likelihood is that they will flounder until they find solid ground by acquiring a set of their own meaningful values.

When we are secure in our principles and values it is then important that we be open to Grace. If you have been tithing and seeding joyfully and unconditionally, the doors are wide open for you to receive and to participate in a life filled with miracles.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 7:32 PM
Keywords: Grace, Joyful giving, Seeding, Tithing, Values
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Sunday, January 18, 2009

The Grace Track

Because energy follows thought, my advice has always been to hold thoughts that uplift you. Hold images in your mind that you want more of.

Be careful what you ask for because if you get it, you also get what goes with it -- which is fine if, when it does come your way, you are prepared to handle it to completion.


From: The Rest of Your Life by John-Roger, DSS with Paul Kaye

So with the double whammy of the above quote, it is time to place our seed. Remember to see yourself in the picture receiving or being part of what you are seeding for. Make your claim and keep in mind the highest good. And please share with us your success stories.

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I was counseling someone the other day and pointed out to them that they were on the "struggle track" and needed to make the switch onto the "Grace track". Not surprisingly they had stopped tithing a while back, ironically when things had been going well. It got me thinking about this quote from a Hopi Elder:

Banish the word 'struggle' from your attitude and your vocabulary. All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration. We are the ones we've been waiting for.

Grace is there, waiting. All we need do is turn.

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Frugality appears to be the new American way of life as this article, Outsourced Chores Come Home, demonstrates.

There is of course a paradox in this. It’s called the Paradox of Thrift. As Americans save more, less money goes into the economy and, in the short term, things get a lot worse for a lot of people. That is what we are seeing right now in abysmal retail sales, from which other consequences emerge (store space for rent), and so on.

Excerpt:

Susan Todoroff, a personal trainer in Ann Arbor, Mich., has begun brewing espressos at home and cutting her hair and cleaning her house herself. And Tamar A. Zaidenweber, a health care market researcher in Astoria, Queens, is spending more time walking her dog instead of taking it to day care each week.

All of these consumers could praise themselves for their newfound frugality in the midst of an economic downturn. But every step they take toward self-reliance — each shrub they prune themselves, each cupcake they bake from scratch — hurts the people and small businesses that have long provided these services professionally.


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Thanks to Sumi for these Thomas Jefferson quotes. If only we had listened.

“When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.”


“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”

“It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes, a principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.”

“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

“My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.”

“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”

Oh, well.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 8:14 PM
Keywords: Frugal Living, Grace, Seeding, The Economy, Values
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Saturday, January 17, 2009

Letting Go, Service, and Integrity

And the reason all this works is that you let go and give to God, joyfully and unconditionally.

From God Is Your Partner (on seeding) by John-Roger, DSS

Well, if that short sentence doesn’t say it all regarding living the spiritual principles of abundance and prosperity I don’t know what does. Please take it in.

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If you didn’t see Michelle Obama’s call to service on Martin Luther King Day on Monday here it is. (2 mins)

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This is a must see video, named Four Generations, to warm your heart and may redefine abundance for you.


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From Wikipedia:

The Achaemenid Persian Empire (550–330 BCE), which at the height of its power had more than 20 nations under its control, was built on the most basic principles - that of truth and justice, which formed the bases of the Achaemenid culture. Based on the Zoroastrian doctrine, it was the strong emphasis on honesty and integrity that gave the ancient Persians credibility to rule the world, even in the eyes of the people belonging to the conquered nations.

This largest Empire of the Ancient World was forged by Cyrus the Great, and spanned three continents, including territories of Afghanistan and Pakistan, parts of Central Asia, Asia Minor, Thrace, much of the Black Sea coastal regions, Iraq, northern Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, and all significant population centers of ancient Egypt as far west as Libya. It is also noted for freeing the Jews from their Babylonian captivity, and for instituting Aramaic as the empire's official language.


As we have seen, the United States of America has wandered far from its founding fathers who did have the principles of truth and justice in mind. And certainly we have seen any emphasis on honesty and integrity evaporate before our eyes in the last six months. It has taken a generation for things to come off their tracks and in my opinion it will take a generation to get them back on again. Let’s hope that Tuesday will get us off to a good start.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 10:18 PM
Keywords: Joyful giving, Seeding, Service, The Economy, Trust, Unconditional, Values
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Friday, January 16, 2009

Smile, It'll Help You Relax

One of the biggest keys to seeding is making the claim. Get ready we will seed on Sunday.

You state what you want very clearly. Then you claim it as already being here, which is conditioning the consciousness. To receive, you need to act as though you have it; this is the faith statement that it is already present.

(From God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS)

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Good article on the consequences of U.S. citizens now turning towards the novel activity of saving. Excerpt:

At a 3-per-cent savings rate, the United States will see $3.8-trillion showing up next year in the banking system just from domestic savers. At 7 per cent, almost $9-trillion will come rushing in as part of the savings tsunami. It is a fire hose of money pointed at the banks, and it's just beginning.

These are ear-popping figures. Three per cent, for example, produces almost five times as much in one-year U.S. capital inflows as the entirety of China's current Treasury holdings. It is four times as much as the proposed Obama stimulus plan. In short, at even relatively small changes, at least in percentage terms, the United States will rapidly transform its banking system and its capital markets.


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It's often pointed out to me that I look too serious, some would say troubled. I am basically a happy and contented fellow but the feedback has been consistent I thought that perhaps my facial features should match my inner demeanor. This, I found this recent article in Time Magazine. Excerpt:

My personal trainer sometimes gives me an odd piece of advice during workouts: "Relax your face." For a long time, I found this advice confusing. Isn't physical exertion supposed to be expressed in grimaces? I thought of the face as a pressure-relief valve that helps emit the pain the body is experiencing. But the trainer suggested I think about it the other way around — that controlling the face can help control the mind.

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In a follow-on story Time shows Second Place: The Faces of Defeat.

It's always fascinated me how coming second is considered a defeat, no matter how far up the chain you go, for example, Olympic Final.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 9:56 PM
Keywords: Health, Seeding, The Economy
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Thursday, January 15, 2009

You Gotta Have Faith

When you seed, you need to do it with the real faith of the heart. To receive, you need to act as though you have it; this is the statement of faith that it is already present. The faith is claiming that you will receive prior to it coming to you.

Faith is also basking in gratefulness for the grace of Divinity showered on you because you have seeded. And you did it joyfully.


(From God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS)

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We are getting ready to place our seed. Hopefully you have been using your imagination to foresee a wonderful thing to manifest, for the highest good. And very importantly you have seen yourself in the picture you are envisioning--perhaps enjoying/receiving/participating in what you have in mind.

The next step is making the claim. And we'll talk about that tomorrow.

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Paul Kedrosky's post today about the "Things I Don't Care About or Believe In" really resonated with me. The financial press is full of the same old stuff with no real solution in sight. See if you agree with his list:

Where Bernie Madoff is in NYC on his way to/from hearings. Who cares? Really?

Apple statements on Steve Jobs' current employment status. Apple is marginally less trustworthy than the Kremlin.

Conversation about further capital injections in banks. Nationalize them, let them fail, or shut up.

Decoupled anything. I have been arguing this point for a year, and I still run into idiots who think, say, China is going to bounce right back because it doesn't need trade. It not only won't bounce right back, it will likely go into outright recession.

Depression/recession chatter. We're doing that denial thing about a depression the same way we did about about a recession. A credit collapse, trade spiral, disappeared confidence, failing banks, fast-rising unemployment, and loss of confidence worldwide: We are in a depression of some to-be-determined eventual severity. Stop talking and move on.

I find it helpful to keep track of things I don't care about. That way I can stop paying attention when they come. It's liberating, like emptying out the garage.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 11:35 PM
Keywords: Seeding, The Economy
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Wednesday, January 14, 2009

A Wonderful Key to Expansion

I think this quote is so good and so relevant to our lives, the current world situation, and to our seeding process that I am just going to let it be the post for today so that you can sit with it and take it in.


At the same time that we want to know who we are and that we are Soul, we can so easily get stuck in the drama of daily living. We become attached to our mistakes and failures instead of learning how to experience success beyond our wildest dreams. A key to expansion, to opening sacred inner space, is the divine imagination. Visualize the very best of yourself—the joy and the loving flowing within you and out of you—and hold that vision. As you hold that vision, it will become a reality because that’s the real you.

Many people, when they hear about using the divine imagination to live in the true self, say, “But that’s not real.” My response is, “Really? You are divine. You are a creator. You have the essence of God manifesting through you. Why can’t you mock up something positive? You mock up your misery. You mock up your despair. You mock up your illness. Why not mock up who you are?” You can use exactly the same principle you use to put down yourself and others to lift yourself into who you are.



(From: What’s It Like Being You by John-Roger, DSS with Paul Kaye)

Posted by Paul Kaye at 4:31 PM
Keywords: Imagination, Manifestation, Seeding
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Tuesday, January 13, 2009

A Superb Road Map

To receive you must be active. Keep in mind your purpose. You will receive in direct proportion to your clarity of vision, your definiteness of purpose, the steadiness of your faith, and the depth of your gratitude.

--John-Roger, DSS

This excellent quote offers a road map to abundance. I want to particularly bring your attention to “clarity of vision” which we have been talking about, albeit in round about ways, this last week. Please continue to shape your vision for your seed, and then we will take the next step.

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The hilarious The Onion came up with an excellent piece on devaluations and the dollar in November 2005, which still holds up today. Excerpts:

Although the value of the U.S. dollar has fallen steadily against the Lithuanian nail and the Estonian crab apple since early this year, many financial experts had predicted that it would hold its own against the acorn.

"The inedible dollar simply does not offer the same long-term security or short-term benefits as the acorn," said James Aucker of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission. "It is even falling against the Costa Rican pocket, the Latvian thimble, and the German Kinder Surprise Egg, which combines delicious chocolate with a fun, easy-to-assemble toy."

Despite the dollar's ongoing depreciation, it has still made significant gains on Congolese human life, which after late trading dropped to U.S. $1.2826.


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Financial Quote of the Dayfrom the excellent Tim Price of PFP Wealth Management:

Ronald described government as "like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other."

Where we stand today, a problem caused primarily by the unconstrained greed of the private sector is now being addressed by the dubious intentions of the public sector. History suggests it will not be handled well.

When money is spent, it can only be under one of three conditions. You can spend your money on yourself. You can spend your money on other people. Or you can spend other people's money on other people. This last version is the very definition of government spending.


Tim goes on to offer the following piece of advice:

Indeed the trick in 2009 will be to treat equities like bonds, as primarily income-generating assets (and something has to replace those deposit accounts at dodgy banks, which is to say all of them). So if the stocks in your portfolio are unlikely to maintain their dividend, or worse still don't even pay a dividend, you would be well advised to eject them with extreme prejudice.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 3:43 PM
Keywords: Manifestation, Money, Seeding, The Economy
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Monday, January 12, 2009

My Favorite Tool

Here is a Twitter (via Twitterrific) received from my wife Shelley today:

Picked up scissors in pencil cup on desk and lopped off ponytail. Salon appt. over!

Yup, in our home we take frugality and the Bohemian lifestyle really seriously.

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The following quote from J-R knocked my socks off when I first saw it:


Creative imagination is not wishful thinking. It is bringing the divine into action. It is bringing the Spirit into the mind, into the emotions, into the physical body, and into the physical world to manifest it.


It keyed me into the importance of the imagination, something I had relegated in the past to the lower levels of consciousness. It really helped me to use my awareness, and the way I move through life, in more creative ways.

And of course it is entirely relevant to the process of seeding as we imagine/envision the seeding scenario, and ourselves in it.

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From the I don’t Really Need to Know This But It Is Interesting Dept. (courtesy of veryshortlist.com):

South Dakotans have little use for yoga instructors, Floridians love Cuban food and drum circles, and Californians have the cleanest teeth. That’s according to StateStats — a search engine that shows us who’s been Googling what, from where, across the country.

The site lists the most popular search queries in every state and links them with data (on obesity, income levels, violent crime, etc.) provided by the U.S. Census Bureau: Alaska, which tops Google searches for “guns,” comes in second for suicide; Hawaiians, who devote large chunks of time to “tofu,” have the nation’s highest life expectancy (and an inordinate interest in “breast implants”). Maine is tops in searches for “chocolate labs.” West Virginia, “meth labs.” And Wyoming residents, who lead the nation in “alcoholism” searches, might want to partner up with the New Yorkers who pushed their state to the head of the “hangover remedies” list.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 4:43 PM
Keywords: Frugal Living, Imagination, Manifestation, Seeding, Simplicity
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Friday, January 9, 2009

The World In Your Hand

When you look at your business in terms of, "Well, I wonder if I'll make money next year?"

What are you doing to yourself?

"Will I have a job next year? I wonder if they'll rehire me."

Probably not, because you're manifesting lack. You're manifesting it. You're creating it with your breath instead of saying, "Hey, next year I'll have a job. I don't care if it's this job. But that job is going to be more abundantly alive, awakening me, than ever before, and God help me be strong enough to fulfill it the greatest way possible.


From Manifesting God’s Abundance by John-Roger, DSS

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As you contemplate your seed, think good things about it. Think good things about yourself.

In my dream, the Angel shrugged and said, "If we fail this time, it will be a failure of imagination." And then she placed the world gently in the palm of my hand.

Erica Jong

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Read this short post about Destination Addiction. I know some of you suffer from it. Excerpt:

"Millions suffer from it, and the symptoms include using words like more, next, and there."

Posted by Paul Kaye at 9:31 PM
Keywords: Imagination, Seeding
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Wednesday, January 7, 2009

Must Have

God is intention. When you tithe you make God your abundant focus. God’s intention is in that focus, so God will know right where to find you.

From God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS

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When looking at what you want to manifest in your life and seed for, an exercise developed by MSIA staff member Betsy Alexander has proved itself to be very effective. We use it when we are looking for a staff member or volunteer. Many have used it successfully when looking for a house or apartment. And it has even worked for finding a relationship.

In involves writing three lists on three separate pieces of paper. The first list is entitled MUST HAVE. In it you put all things that you must have in what you are wanting to manifest.

The second list is entitled WOULD LIKE. Unlike the first list, these are not deal breakers but things you might have a strong preference for.

The third list is entitled GRACIOUS TOUCHES. This is where you list the things that you could definitely do without but would be really nice to have.

So there you have it. It is a great way to get clear on what you wish to manifest. It really is giving God a clear blueprint. And of course always keep in mind the highest good of all concerned.

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Thanks to Grace Allison for this. This type of game is something I have been looking out for for quite some time, ever since I read about Mind Ball a few years ago, a game in which the person with the most relaxed mind gets to move the ball into the other person's goal. I think the games below will be lots of fun and very healthy for the mind, too.

Toy trains 'Star Wars' fans to use The Force
By Mike Snider, USA TODAY

Could The Force be with you? A toy due in stores this fall will let you test and hone your Jedi-like abilities.

The Force Trainer (expected to be priced at $90 to $100) comes with a headset that uses brain waves to allow players to manipulate a sphere within a clear 10-inch-tall training tower, analogous to Yoda and Luke Skywalker's abilities in the Star Wars films.

No, you're not tapping into some "all-powerful force controlling everything," as Han Solo said in the movies. But you are reaching out with mind power via one of the first mass-market brain-to-computer products. "It's been a fantasy everyone has had, using The Force," says Howard Roffman, president of Lucas Licensing.

Mind-control games may be the coming thing: Mattel plans to demonstrate a Mind Flex game (also due this fall), which uses brain-wave activity to move a ball through a tabletop obstacle course, at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas on Thursday.

In the Force Trainer, a wireless headset reads your brain activity, in a simplified version of EEG medical tests, and the circuitry translates it to physical action. If you focus well enough, the training sphere, which looks like a ping-pong ball, will rise in the tower.

A state of deep concentration is needed to achieve a Force-full effect. "When you concentrate, it activates the training remote," says Frank Adler of toymaker Uncle Milton Industries, which is creating the Trainer. "There is a flow of air that will move the (ball). You can actually feel like you are in a zone."

Star Wars sound effects and audio clips emitted from the base unit "cue you in to progress to the next level (from Padawan to Jedi) or when to move the sphere up or down to keep challenging yourself," Adler says.

"Until today, EEG technology has been designed for rigorous medical and clinical applications with little regard to price (and) ease of use," says Greg Hyver of NeuroSky, which developed the brain-wave technology for both games. "We are putting this exciting technology into everyone's living room."

Posted by Paul Kaye at 9:45 PM
Keywords: Health, Manifestation, Seeding
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Tuesday, January 6, 2009

Return to Seeding

The key is in the attitude. Some people have really gotten into the magic of how to do seeding. They do it unconditionally, where they just feel the joy of giving and where it really feels good that the Church has the money and it is going to be used for a good thing.

And with that giving attitude, they sit in what I’d call God consciousness. Maybe not the biggest part of it, but certainly it’s in there. It’s terrific to watch. And when they reap the harvest, that’s the best deal in this life. Some people don’t reap material benefits; they get peace of mind.


From God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS

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I've finally got bored with the financial meltdown thing. If I come across anything insightful I will of course report and link to it. All we need to know is that Barack Obama said today that we will have trillion dollar deficits for a few years. The implications of this are of course are massive and we'll be discussing that in forthcoming posts.

For now, let's get back to the business of manifesting what we want, for the highest good, in our lives. And the best way I know to do that is through the process of seeding.

So, step one for today:

What harvest do you want to seed for this coming year?

Posted by Paul Kaye at 7:39 PM
Keywords: Seeding
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Tuesday, October 7, 2008

A Good Seeding Tip

This brief but excellent post today (in full below) from marketer extraordinaire, Seth Godin, offers a good tip that may also apply to seeding. (Thanks to Shelley for pointing it out).

Items in the future are closer than they appear.

If you're going across town, you're very specific: "188 Fifth Avenue, on the east side of the street please."

On the other hand, when you go on vacation, you tell people, "I'm going to Paris," not "we're going to 8 rue du Cherche-Midi."

And if you're going even farther than that, you skip the city and country altogether and just say, "we're going to Africa."

One day, Richard Branson will take you all the way to Mars--all you get is the name of the planet.

This makes sense, of course. We don't need to know which crater you're going to, just that it's far away.

Marketers spend a lot of time describing a future and making it real. The more general you are in describing it, the farther away people imagine it is.

"We're going to launch a new product next year" sounds a lot more distant than handing someone a prototype and saying, "this launches on January 3rd at 2 pm at CES."

Short version: If you want people to embrace your version of the future, talk about it like it's right around the corner, not on another planet.


PK short version: If you want God to embrace your vision of your future, talk about it like it's right here, not on another planet.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 7:10 PM
Keywords: Seeding
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Wednesday, September 17, 2008

Some Final Thoughts on Seeding

Well, not really “final” but we will leave it alone for a a week or two and let our seeds incubate and come to harvest.

Here is another very directive quote from J-R:

What do people get when they give? Sometimes, they just get the satisfaction of giving. Seeding has to give you the satisfaction of just doing it. You draw your picture and purposely design it. You tell it to God, and you release it to God. Then you go on about your business. And if you see something else you want, you seed again, and pretty soon the first one comes in and then the next. When does it come in? WHEN IT COMES IN. What if you don’t get it within a certain period of time? I would say that if it doesn’t start to return in about a month, look to yourself to see what happened. Maybe you need to be more patient. Maybe you need to seed again for that same thing. Go inside yourself to find out, because seeding is between you and God.

And something else we can do, if the seed isn’t coming in:

Sometimes you might say, “This seeding that I did, I haven’t got the result yet.” Maybe you didn’t seed enough for the value. So you give more, called a double portion. So you now have a double seeding on this thing you want, and now it’s more likely to be brought forward for you. This comes not necessarily in your timing, but in God’s timing, and God is your partner in this, knowing what you really want and supplying it.

And the best news of all is that a seed is never wasted.

You see, this thing works so perfectly in the Spirit. If you seeded less than what was needed to bring it to you, the seeding will be transferred into something else inside of you and in Spirit. It would probably go into the karmic thing that you need to balance, so the things you get in the future won’t be taken away through lawsuits or divorce settlements or auto wrecks or somebody getting hurt. So if it can be balanced-off financially with a hundredfold return, what an easy way to do it.

Whew! No need to worry. We can relax and let God, after all.

Hey, maybe I could have been doing that at the beginning. What a concept!

Posted by Paul Kaye at 5:29 PM
Keywords: Seeding
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Tuesday, September 16, 2008

What Do We Do Now?

In Sunday’s post, now that we have completed the seeding process, I brought up the question, “Can we now really sit back and relax and let God do all the work? Can it be that easy?”

Well, yes and no. I used to think, “It is in God’s hands, it’s up to Him, I’m just going to let go. Whatever, for the highest good.” However, I really care about the seed I have just placed. It’s there, I’ve claimed it, and I see myself receiving it. Fortunately J-R gives me a clear answer:

This idea of casting forward through seeding must include an act that commits you to it as a mental focus. You need a clear vision, a clear idea of how you want it to be, and you seed for that. Then you wait for the harvest — not in terms of sitting down but in terms of watering and fertilizing the ground so that there’s something for it to grow out of. You make sure it’s watered and fertilized by keeping your mind on what you want; you water and fertilize it out of your mental desires. It’s an attitude or vision.

Riffing on the “watering” theme, L.C.B. came up with this which he shares in God Is My Partner in the Seeding Testimonials section:

In order to get doubt working for me (it’s my ultimate test of how much I really want what I say I want), I have developed a daily choosing-back process that has been assisting me in some seeding successes. I call it “watering the seed” and for 32 consecutive days I water the seed by visualizing what I want, I see myself as having it, and I send in the additional seed money to MSIA. The key for me was to continue holding the vision of my seed manifesting — not just once with the initial planting — but for 32 consecutive days.

I don’t think I could have repeated the vision each day for more than a month if what I wanted was off-track for me. During the 32 days, my worthiness and willingness to receive grew stronger than the doubt. And as what I was seeding for came alive within my consciousness, the doubt became a lie.

After the 32 days of watering the seed, although I was inwardly directed to do additional watering at various times, it was clear my role was to relax and deepen my relationship to Spirit.

The seed manifested in the perfection of God’s timing and I am overflowing with gratitude and appreciation for the Traveler teaching me the keys to successful co-creation with God. Watering the seed has proven itself to me as a valuable tool to support me in manifesting my co-creations with God.
L.C.B.

More on this tomorrow.

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Monday, September 15, 2008

Did You Know.....

....that this website contains a recorded step by step seeding meditation by John Morton?

Tired of slogging through my daily posts on making a seed? Well, then take a short cut and
click on GOODIES on the left side of this blog. Then click on MULTIMEDIA. To the right of the image of Leigh Briggin and I is a brown tag with the seeding meditation mentioned. Just click on that.

Or just click on here.

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Sunday, September 14, 2008

Oy! The Joy!

Although I have a reputation as a sometime funny guy, I am very prone to outbursts of seriousness. So Step Six, the final step in the seeding process, is an important one for me as it involves giving joyfully. Having spent so much time in the previous steps of getting all the details together, it is a relief for me to be reminded of, and move into, the joyfulness of giving to God.

Here is what J-R has to say on the matter:

STEP SIX:

The final thing is that you give joyfully and with an attitude of gratitude for the blessings that are already in your life. God is the source of your supply, and so you let go of any concerns about how you are going to get what you have seeded for. That is in God’s hands, and God will bring it forward for you in his own timing and in his own way.

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And the reason all this works is that you let go and give to God, joyfully and unconditionally.

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You are the one preparing the soil by your openness, your willingness, your joyful-giving attitude, and, above all, your heart and your being intentioned toward God.

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Faith is also basking in gratefulness for the grace of Divinity showered on you because you have seeded. And you did it joyfully.


And one of my favorites because it covers so much:

Being a joyful giver is a great part of loving the Lord with your body, mind, and Soul.

So we have completed the seeding process. Well done. Can we now really sit back and relax and let God do all the work? Can it be that easy? More to follow on that this coming week.

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Friday, September 12, 2008

Placing the Seed

STEP FIVE:

Now you are ready to seed by giving money to the source of your spiritual teachings. This will be the Church of the Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness if you are a student of the Traveler’s teachings, including being a minister or initiate. The money will generally be 10 percent of what you envision coming in (a tenfold return). But if you can handle the envisioning of it, maybe your return, now or in the future, can be a hundredfold or even a thousandfold. If you are seeding for something nonmaterial, we suggest you go within to find the dollar amount that represents a seed to you.

Even though the above is pretty clear and lays out where to place the seed and how to evaluate the amount to seed, there are a few useful things to add:

1) J-R gives this additional information:

Seeding has to have a value from inside of you placed upon what you are seeding for. If you are seeding for world peace, your first seed would probably be about $400 trillion. If you are seeding for peace inside of you, it may be $4, but it has to be relative to the value of usability that you place upon it. And try to have a picture of it so that there’s an object for Spirit to move into.

Note that all important last sentence.

2) You are placing the seed with God. MSIA is the receptacle for the money. The seed is between you and God and it is in His hands that the seed is being placed.

3) If the amount you wish to seed seems too much, you can seed in installments. J-R has this to say about that:

I’ve seen people seed in installments, and they got what they wanted just after they sent in the last payment.

4) If you don’t have your envisioning perfect it may not matter.

Q: Does it matter whether I give the money first and then later write the seed down?

A: Send the money first because then that makes you commit to doing it. If you write it down first, it’s possible that you’ll never get around to getting a perfect picture. You’ll say, “Well, maybe this isn’t quite right. I’ll work on it a little while more.” Send your seeding with the general idea of what it is, because God may read the intention of the heart and produce it for you within hours.


Not only is it a relief to read that, it is also something I understand from experience. My seed started to come in as soon as I had a clear idea of what I wanted. As it was coming in part of me was saying, “Hang on, I haven’t gotten it totally clear yet!”

(Quotes above in italics are from God Is Your Partner).

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Thursday, September 11, 2008

We Make the Claim

Okay here we go. First a review of Step Four:

When you see it clearly, put it in the Light for the highest good and make your claim. This claiming is the most important part and is the essence of seeding. It is beautifully summed up by Jesus the Christ when he said, “Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.” (Mark 11:24 NIV)

Here is a checklist on the claim (From God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS, and Seed Money by John Hosher):

1. J-R: “You state what you want very clearly. Then you claim it as already being here, which is conditioning the consciousness. To receive, you need to act as though you have it; this is the faith statement that it is already present.”

2. Hosher: “The ONLY THING which you have to believe is that you have already received that which you want.”

3. J-R: "When you seed, you need to do it with the real faith of the heart. You have to claim what you seed for, but you have to claim it in God’s time and love.”

4. Hosher: "Simply believe YOU HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANT. No one else can limit you.

5. J-R: "Faith seeding is powerful. The faith is claiming that you will receive prior to it coming to you.”

6. Hosher: "Instead of continually saying as many do, 'I want,' 'I need,' or 'I do not have,' say, 'I HAVE.'”

7. See yourself in the picture of receiving your seed.

8. And, of course, seed for the highest good.

What about the money for the seed? In reviewing this process in detail I find it interesting that in God Is Your Partner the claim is made BEFORE the money for the seed is placed. In Hosher’s book, planting the seed money is step number one. Since I put the steps together when compiling the book, I have had to ask myself, what was I thinking?

Actually, I probably wasn’t thinking and I am claiming it was a divine moment. However, the God Is Your Partner approach does make sense. When we plant a tomato seed we do it knowing we are going to get tomatoes. The knowing comes before the planting. (This is assuming we are conscious, loving growers. I do understand the “Hail Mary” approach to gardening, but it has very mixed and inconsistent results—and a lot of surprises). In this seed we have been very conscious and diligent about the process and we are looking for a clear, specific result, through God’s grace of course.

I do a little ritual where I call in the Light, move into a sacred, intimate space with the Beloved and say something like, “For the highest good, Father, I claim this seed in the name of God, the Holy Spirit, the Mystical Traveler, and the Lord Jesus Christ. Baruch Bashan.”

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Wednesday, September 10, 2008

The Fast Way to Personal Abundance

STEP FOUR:

When you see it clearly, put it in the Light for the highest good and make your claim. This claiming is the most important part and is the essence of seeding. It is beautifully summed up by Jesus the Christ when he said, “Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.” (Mark 11:24 NIV)

Okay we are getting close. Almost time to place the seed. So let’s look around our seed, kick the tires, check out how we are envisioning our seed and, very importantly, whether we see ourselves clearly in the picture. Meanwhile, check out this great post from J-R. I love those last two sentences.

If you say, “I want to reach that mountain over there,” that’s called imagining. But if you’re doing the seeding, you start to prepare yourself right here to receive of the mountain. You check that the car has gas in it and that the tires have air. You check the road map to see how to get there, and the weather to see if you want to go at that time. With seeding, you must be able to see the mountain and see a way to get there. We hold clearly the inner picture of what we want, and then we seed for it. This is a fast way to personal abundance.

Take your time and check things out, and tomorrow we’ll make our “claim.”

I’ve been posting from Kaua’i this past week, having been on a solo MSIA staff trip, and am now at the airport on my way home. Thirty services done, plus two initiations, and a talk on the Rest of Your Life for 29 folks to boot. Who knew anyone was even on the island? What a beautiful place. Doing services at the MSIA rep's home overlooking the ocean. Wow. And I didn’t even seed for this. This trip has clearly been a gift from God. God’s abundance in action. I’ll try and post some pictures when I am back in Los Angeles.

(Quotes above from God Is Your Partner)

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Tuesday, September 9, 2008

Step Three (Part Two)

(Quotes are from God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS)

Step Three is:

Check your inner levels to make sure there is no doubt or second-guessing yourself. This is very important because seeding can work as powerfully to reinforce your doubts as it can to validate your faith. We recommend that you tell no one about what you are seeding for. After you have received it, then you can decide whether you want to tell anyone.

Let’s now look at the second part of this step. It is about not telling anyone about your seed. Fortunately, this is a lot easier than yesterday’s post--all you have to do is keep your mouth shut! Well, okay, maybe simple, but not always so easy for most of us.

It’s very important that you do not tell anyone the goal you’re seeding toward, that you are manifesting. Not your spouse, not your Siamese twin, because they can very subtly, through not seeing your vision, cast doubt upon what you’ve got. You’ll buy their doubt as your own doubt even if you don’t want to. Then when the negativity appears, they say, “See, I was right.” Then you may say to yourself, “Gee, I wonder if they really are right.” The god of opinion is now taking care of you and not the great abundant God. The god of opinion doesn’t deliver abundance, health, and prosperity. It delivers rip down, tear down, and alienation. That’s the law. The abundant God brings grace.

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Also important is the faith of seeing what you want coming in, seeing yourself receiving it, knowing you are going to get it. If you doubt it, the doubt goes into the seed, and you can get negative things coming forward. So this is why I say, don’t tell anybody.


Here is the good part. I used to consider this as yet another “rule.” But it has since hit me that this is one of the most profound parts of the process—the sacredness. By keeping it only between you and God there is a sacred trust. God is holding and nurturing your very own seed, that only you and God know about. It is really quite beautiful.

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Monday, September 8, 2008

Step Three (Part One)

(Quotes are from God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS)

STEP THREE is:

Check your inner levels to make sure there is no doubt or second-guessing yourself. This is very important because seeding can work as powerfully to reinforce your doubts as it can to validate your faith. We recommend that you tell no one about what you are seeding for. After you have received it, then you can decide whether you want to tell anyone.

There are really two parts to this step. In this post, let’s deal with the first part about doubt or second-guessing. In addressing this J-R is pretty emphatic:

You get your purpose clear, and if you get at cross-purposes with yourself, if you undermine your seeding with doubt, your seeding rots and decays. It doesn’t bear good fruit.

This can scare, and does scare, a lot of people away from seeding. But I appreciate J-R’s directness because it makes a lot of sense. It hasn’t always been that way for me. I thought it was harsh when I started seeding. However, it now makes sense to me, thanks to the clarification I have received in the process of writing this blog.

The very essence and heart of seeding is in the claim. We have discussed this aspect of claiming in detail in past posts (you can click the “seeding” tag at the side of the blog to find them) and will re-visit it again as we go along. The critical part is having the faith to claim the result before it has arrived—that you have already received what it is you are seeding for.

Hopefully you can see what a delicate thing this is, like balancing on a tightrope, and how the least bit of doubt can throw the whole thing off and we get the doubt and not what we seeded for.

This process of creation doesn’t care what we go toward. If you get negative doubts and thoughts, the process will manifest those for you. So in undertaking seeding, you must understand that it’s a real tightrope balance in terms of what you’re going to keep holding in your mind. If you start getting negative pictures or thoughts about something you’re seeding for, stop them immediately. You want to make sure you’ve got this thing going in the right direction all the time, and you have to watch your thoughts carefully.

Knowing how you’re going to get there is not as critical as knowing that you’re going to get there and, in that, not having any doubts, any second thoughts — nothing except the holding and the acting as though it is going to happen.


So what do we do when the doubts come up and we can’t seem to stop them? What is the solution? J-R gives it to us in his typical loving, direct way:

The solution is to grow up, learn to be mature, and handle it responsibly. There’s no way to do this except to really do it.

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Sunday, September 7, 2008

An Abundance of Inspiration

As we prepare for the important Step Three, please take in these quotes on abundance from What’s It Like Being You by John-Roger, DSS with yours truly. It is dense reading, so take your time. But is all part of getting our heads and hearts in line before we place our seeds.

We can be successful in the material world but become a prisoner to having our needs met.
So we continually have to manifest something to meet our needs and, in the process, the inner life is ignored. We may have lots of money, but we lack true abundance.

We must own that we are spiritual beings with infinite abundance and authentic power. Anything less is denial of our true nature and inevitably leads to problems for us—physically, emotionally, and mentally.

The one who sleeps goes for abundance, by manifesting illusion out of greed and insecurity. The one who is awakened only has to take their next breath and discover the abundance that is already present.

Many people see abundance in terms of having what they want when they want it. But that’s the false self’s approach. When I refer to God’s abundance, I’m talking about taking time to look around you with joy and gratitude, taking in this moment in its fullness, knowing that God is present right now, and appreciating the blessing of being alive.

When we swim in the sea of gratitude, we recognize that God’s abundance is all around us. When we live in the true self, we see that whatever is manifesting in our lives is manifesting out of God’s abundance. God never manifests lack.

Assume that you are healthy, assume that you are awake, assume that you are divine, assume that you have abundance. God didn’t put us on Earth and say, “Beg.” He said, “All I’ve got is yours.”

To have abundance in Soul does not mean having lots of things; it means having access to, and communion with, the essence of all things. Once you are in touch with that, you have all things inside you. You don’t feel any lack. You have fullness and gratitude, and you walk free, knowing that whatever you need will come to you.


Wow, that's a lot to take in. I'll have to read it a few times. So, what I take from this is that there is no lack, I have abundance for which I am very grateful. Now, through the process of seeding, I am expanding and opening myself to receiving more of God's abundance, through the blueprint I am providing Him--for the highest good, of course. Phew!

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Friday, September 5, 2008

God's Abundance

What we have to do is exercise this thing called God's abundance.

When God manifests, he manifests abundance. See, that's how we know it's from God. It is abundance. Otherwise it's out of the law of ourselves that we're pulling it to us. Yet, once we've done that, we have not really accomplished anything because we're not manifesting the growth into God's abundance. So when success comes our way, we often fail because we can't handle success--we never learned how to grow into God's abundance that is coming towards us. And we manifest the failure and the lack, instead of saying, "God is bringing this into me and I have to grow big enough to get it--I've got to be able to put myself there to receive of it." Yes, it is a manifestation of faith, I agree. But it's not the type of faith that's a hope. Nor is it wishy-washy. It's the type of faith of knowing it's coming even though it's unseen at this moment. You know it's coming.


(From: Manifesting God's Abundance by John-Roger, DSS)

Before we take Step Three of the seeding process, I wanted to take a couple of days, again in preparation and contemplation, to reflect on the nature of God's abundance in our lives. It seems to me that is what we are tapping into when we seed. So let's create the place inside of us for that to manifest.

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Thursday, September 4, 2008

Step Two

You can seed for as many things as you can hold a clear picture of in your consciousness. You have to watch this because it’s a pretty delicate balance that you’re maintaining in yourself with your environment. If you get caught in the greed of it, then you get to receive of the greed, and you may not receive what you wanted. Then you live in lack: “I lack; therefore, I have greed.” But if you have abundance, you don’t have lack, and, therefore, you don’t deal in greed. It often takes a while to transit across some of your old, habitual personality patterns, and seeding also assists you in getting free.

STEP TWO

You can seed for as many things as you want. However, if you are new to this, we recommend that you start with one area, so you can hold that focus and see it working.

Yesterday I mentioned forgiveness and that process has continued inside of me. I want that channel of receiving to be as clear as it can before I seed.

One thing that has come up for me is the question, “Will God give this to me?” In that simple question is a subtle world of doubt and unworthiness. So you can see I have some inner work to do before I place the seed.

I am choosing to place one seed for one specific thing. I want to track it and affirm it and watch for movement with it, and it is easier for me to do that with one seed.

I am off to do more forgiveness.

(Quotes in italics above are from God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS)

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Wednesday, September 3, 2008

Joyful Giving

How do you know your tithing works? By the results that it’s bearing. And what if it doesn’t bear the results? You didn’t do it out of your heart. God says that He loves a joyful giver. You forgot to smile as you wrote the check. You forgot to say, “Thank you, Lord, and there’s more coming. And thanks for the health and thanks for this and this and this.” The thankfulness is like a litany, almost like chanting the spiritual exercise mantra. It will start to produce changes in us that are remarkable.

I often get so caught up in the technicalities of the seed, wanting to do it “right,” that I forget the joy. I think of the story that J-R tells of the Rabbi studying the Torah and the teacher at the Yeshiva reading, “And God spoke...” and the Rabbi going into ecstasy shouting “God spoke! God Spoke!”

In a similar way, when I wake myself up from my seriousness and enter onto the joyfulness of this seeding process I feel like running around shouting, “I am seeding to God! I am seeding to God,” when contemplating what I am actually doing.

Joyful giving isn’t doing, “Yay, team! Cheer, cheer, cheer! Fight for the Lord until you die. Rah, rah, rah!” It is the essence of what is in your heart that counts

Faith is also basking in gratefulness for the grace of Divinity showered on you because you have seeded. And you did it joyfully.


And also to add to the process the loving of myself, and the forgiving of myself for all the limitations I have created, and the false beliefs I have maintained that I have allowed to hold me back.

It's a matter of loving yourself enough to clarify and clear the channel so that your success can manifest in reality, in this lifetime, for you to have, enjoy, and share. -- John-Roger, DSS (From: Wealth & Higher Consciousness)

Okay, we are ready for step two, tomorrow.

(Unless specified, quotes in italics above are from God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS)

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Tuesday, September 2, 2008

Now to the First Step

Q: If God’s my partner, can I just seed and let him decide what to do?

A: No, because he’s saying to you, “Give me a blueprint of what you want.”
Your job is to provide God with the blueprint.

When you seed, you need to do it with the real faith of the heart. You have to claim what you seed for, but you have to claim it in God’s time and love. You also have to let God know that you’re his “co-pilot,” his partner. And although God is the “senior partner,” you can’t just seed and say, “I’ll let God decide what to do,” because God’s saying to you, “You need to give me a blueprint.”


STEP ONE:

Envision what you want or what you want more of in your life. See it clearly, see the details, see yourself carrying it out or living it. It can be a material item or something non-material, such as a relationship, better health, etc.

Now comes the exciting part—giving God the blueprint. The dictionary defines a blueprint as “a detailed outline or plan of action.” And detailed we must be. As J-R tells us:

Get what you want as detailed as you can — as tasty as you can taste it, as smelly as you can smell it. As much as you can, activate hearing, seeing, feeling, tasting, and smelling. Then activate the intuitive sense, so that you just know. And all that will start working to pull in what you want.

We discussed in the earlier seeding posts (July 27th for example) the importance of seeing yourself in your seeding picture. I suggest you re-read that post. It’s easy to leave yourself out—so don’t.

Q: Can I write down what I’m seeding for?

A: Absolutely. In fact I suggest that you do write it down so that you can review it for about a week. Perhaps you can review it two or three times in the morning until you don’t have to review it anymore because it’s there inside of you.


J-R also recommends doing a “Treasure Map.”

You can also do a collage, or “treasure map,” where you take pictures of what you’re seeding toward and put them on a board, or you can create an ideal scene with the creative imagination, or you can use the technique of programming the universal mind, or you can use all of them. These things are all extremely valuable.

It’s interesting that many times the only limitation is what we place there. More on this step tomorrow.

(All above quotes in italics are from God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS)

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Sunday, August 31, 2008

The Key Seeding Principles (#3)


Tithe for the lower self, seed for the high self, and share it out through the conscious self. Be the source of extreme abundance and overflow for everybody around you. In this way, you come back and reconnect your power with the glory of God.

Seeding is done in cooperation with the high self.


(Above quotes from God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS)

It’s important to keep in mind that when we are seeding we are in active involvement and cooperation with the high self.

The basic self will try to block you from High Self because the High Self usually functions through the basic to reach the consciousness; but when consciousness goes directly to High Self, the basic self says, "I'm being left out.” So it will try to block by pulling you down through doubt, skepticism, fear, worries, anxieties, fear of poverty, etc. (From Dynamics of the Lower Self by John-Roger, DSS)

So where are we, us band of joyful givers, with the basic self in all of this? Well, hopefully, the basic self feels very taken care of. After all it is being trained in letting go of materiality through our tithing and, through the money magnet, it has its very own stash to enjoy. Plus, if there is a material financial benefit from the seed, the basic self will also enjoy that benefit through the increase in its magnet.

The High Self expresses the feelings of great inspiration and great lofty ideals; it creates the desire to lift mankind in your arms and save everyone. Those moments when you see everything in the world in love and in beauty and in harmony, those moments when everything is right and perfect come out of the High Self. Each one of you have within yourself a Higher Self, a conscious self and a basic self--the three selves. We all might like to express that Higher Self more often because it can do the magic; you all know it exists because sometimes you do the magic--the way you can love your spouse, the way you can sacrifice for your children, the way you can work for hours to help a friend; there are a lot of ways that you express the High Self. (From Dynamics of the Lower Self by John-Roger, DSS)

From my experience it is rare in the teachings that we get to engage the High Self so directly. So it is a wonderful opportunity, and a little bit of MSIA exotica, that we get to do so through seeding.

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Saturday, August 30, 2008

The Key Seeding Principles (#2)

Seeding comes under grace as a future existence, and it’s one of the most profound, best-kept secrets in the Bible.

Seeding is under grace. We’re giving it to the church and saying, “God is my unfailing supply. With God, all things are possible.”

And know that when you enter into seeding, you receive of the grace of God’s flow and abundance, and the bounty is amazing.

Grace comes to you from God, through seeding, in so many ways — most of which you won’t even be consciously aware of.


(All quotes above from God Is Your Partner by John-Roger, DSS)

Well, I think the above is pretty clear. Grace is integral to seeding. And while it is perhaps a stretch to call grace a principle, it is important that we are aware of and open to receiving grace as an important part the seeding process.

This blog is about living the spiritual principles of abundance and prosperity, so the intention is that as you follow along you are actively participating in making these teachings, set out by John-Roger, John Morton and others that we mention from time to time, an active reality in your life. That’s what I am attempting to do for myself and in the process I am going back to the basics of these principles and re-examining them with a "beginners mind."

Regarding the placing of the current seed, we have looked at preparing the ground, keeping the faith, and now opening to grace. We’ll be examining one more key principle, then we will move into crafting the actual seed.

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Friday, August 29, 2008

The Key Seeding Principles (#1)

We could call it casting, “faithing,” or seeding.

When you seed, you need to do it with the real faith of the heart.

To receive, you need to act as though you have it; this is the faith statement that it is already present.

Faith seeding is powerful. The faith is claiming that you will receive prior to it coming to you. Faith is also basking in gratefulness for the grace of Divinity showered on you because you have seeded. And you did it joyfully.

Your tithing is not a seeding. Seeding is a different thing inside of you, where you build the strength of your own faith and convictions.


(Above quotes from God Is Your Partner)

Being raised in the Jewish religion the idea of faith wasn’t broached that much. And being educated in a Church of England school, where the subject was raised more often, I saw it as more of a Christian concept. Later, when J-R would speak of it I would space out.

Nevertheless, as you can see from the above quotes it is an essential element, if not the essential element, in seeding.

The most popular definition of faith is one often quoted by J-R. It is the Pauline version in Hebrews 11:1 (KJV): “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” I’ve never found that helpful. So I turned to the dictionary which made a little more sense, “1. confidence or trust in a person or thing 2. belief that is not based on proof.” But, um, not really.

I have also heard J-R quote James 2:20 (KJV) “Faith without works is dead.” It never meant anything to me either and having looked it up on the Internet it is somewhat gratifying to know that there are hundreds of entries of people as mystified as I am.

Okay, so I haven’t been of much help. So, let’s go back to J-R in God Is Your Partner:

Q: How is seeding connected to faith?

A: When you seed for something, you act as though you already have received it, which allows a space for it to come in. That’s a form of “faithing.” In the Bible, there’s a story of a woman who reached out and touched Jesus’ garment. This was a seeding action. She said, “If I touch his garment, I will be healed.” It wasn’t, “I touched his garment, and now I’m healed.” She said it ahead of time, as an act of faith, which is the seeding process.


Thank you, J-R! That’s really clear. So let’s get our faithing lined up in preparation for our seed.

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Thursday, August 28, 2008

Fertilizing the Ground

This idea of casting forward through seeding must include an act that commits you to it as a mental focus. You need a clear vision, a clear idea of how you want it to be, and you seed for that. Then you wait for the harvest — not in terms of sitting down but in terms of watering and fertilizing the ground so that there’s something for it to grow out of. You make sure it’s watered and fertilized by keeping your mind on what you want; you water and fertilize it out of your mental desires. It’s an attitude or vision.
--John-Roger, DSS (From: God Is Your Partner)

Well, from the title of the last few posts any first time reader will think they have stumbled on a course in agriculture or home gardening! However, it is important that we create the best and clearest soil (energy field) in which to place our seed.

Hopefully many of you are gradually getting clearer on what your seed is going to be. The above quote from J-R is beautifully clear and brings up an important point. Once the seed is placed, do we let it go into God’s hands and forget about it or, as J-R says above, do we keep our mind on what we want? It’s a question I am asked often.

My answer is that I don’t know. The wonderful thing about seeding is that it is not form or rule based, it is principle based. Following the principle allows for a lot of freedom in the form. So each person needs to decide how the process of seeding works for them, personally. It’s a very individual matter, and I love it when J-R says above, “it’s an attitude or vision.”

I am going to start contemplating what attitude and vision I am going to hold for my seed.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 6:44 PM
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Wednesday, August 27, 2008

Tilling the Soil

The seed has to have something on this level to grow in, and you are the one preparing the soil by your openness, your willingness, your joyful-giving attitude, and, above all, your heart and your being intentioned toward God.
John-Roger, DSS (From: God Is Your Partner)

The above quote says it all. As we prepare to place our seed we make sure the ground is prepared (see yesterday’s post) and now we begin to till the soil by coming into a place of openness and receptivity.

My first seed on this blog was for a tangible result. I placed a seed for money and described the process in previous posts (easily found through the “seeding” tag on the right of the blog). My seed came in and exceeded what I expected, and so in addition to tithing with gratitude on the harvest, I gave a Grace Tithe in thankfulness for the grace that was extended.

This next seed is also tangible but not as clear-cut as the previous one which involved a direct money result. I am seeding for what I am going to call my “project.” And I am taking great care in how I place this seed. I have tried to place this seed in the past but it was loaded with unclarity. So this time I am making sure I am a lot clearer and I am taking slowly, step by step, and sharing those steps with you. Hopefully you’ll follow along, place your own seed, and we can share about the process when the harvest rolls in.

Often, well actually most of the time, when I am intently focused on something I lose track of the inner joy. J-R reminding us above of the “joyful-giving attitude” was very helpful for me to lighten up a bit and thereby make the Spirit more important than the logistics.

This is getting exciting!

Posted by Paul Kaye at 7:27 PM
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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Preparing the Ground

In a sense of the word, seeding is fertilizer, and tithing is what we might call fertile ground. In other words, if we try to grow something just in fertilizer, there’s a good chance it might burn up and die. So we have fertile ground, and that means we take the fertilizer and mix it in.

I’m seeding all the time. I have a lot of seedings out there, but I also don’t have more than what I can handle. Remember, it’s not this body, nor is it your body, that’s rewarding us. It is you and God and how much contact you have with God, which is where s.e.s are really important.


John-Roger, DSS (quotes above from God Is Your Partner)

Before we do our seed this week, I thought it would be good to spend a moment preparing the ground in which we place the seed. If you are tithing that is great, as that prepares the soil. And doing spiritual exercises (s.e.’s) greatly assists the process.

“What would happen if I lost the gold by one thousandth of a second, because there was a training session I skipped or didn't give my all to?” When I read that quote by Christopher Hoy, a three time gold medal winner at this Olympics, I thought, wow, now that is dedication that I can apply to my spiritual exercises.

A softer but just as inspiring anecdotal quote on s.e.’s (or any meaningful practice) is from the book Color by Victoria Finlay:

Violins have to be played everyday, so that they remain violins rather than reverting to their natural state of being pieces of wood.

An unplayed instrument quickly loses its ability to vibrate properly; rather like the musician who plays it, it has to practice regularly.


So let’s make sure the ground is prepared in readiness for our seed.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 6:31 PM
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Thursday, August 7, 2008

God, Surprise Me!

"They who dance are thought mad by those who hear not the music." Anonymous

In my July 31 post, about our seeing ourselves in the picture when we seed, I mentioned:

One of my favorite stories was the DSS student who went to Las Vegas and placed $100 seed and said to God, “Surprise me!” He has very happy with the results, although what they were escapes me at this moment. If he is reading this blog perhaps he can let us know.

Well, I am delighted to say that Peter Bort, the gentleman who placed the seed above, did get in touch via the comments section. You probably missed it unless you scour past comments sections, so here is what he had to say:

I am that DSS student Paul refers to who planted a seed which consisted of "God, surprise me" [for whoever it is that keeps track of these things, it was actually a $20 seed and it was planted before I took an impromptu and uncharacteristic trip to Atlantic City.] I was surprised when early in my first $20 of quarters in the slot machine I hit a $1200 jackpot. Being new to casinos, I simply took my winnings and went on to other non-gambling activities. The positive surprises kept coming on this particular evening evening, with the jackpot just one of many. When I ask God with few conditions on the requested outcome I don't necessarily get hung up on the "for the highest good" idea. I conceive that when I give it to God He is only bringing me good things. However, when I seed for something very specific, like an outcome in a client's case, I am especially careful to include "for the highest good" in the request so that my cast in the water is not too narrow.

Those last three sentences were a very provocative. And as if that wasn't enough for us to chew on, Peter also left this comment:

I want to share about a seed I planted in my first year of the DSS class (almost 12 yrs ago). What came to me to ask for is Financial Freedom. This originates as a search for an antidote to the poverty consciousness I focused upon as I grew up. I seeded in one shot an amount between one and two per cent of my total annual gross income. This was a huge commitment of resources for me. Within two years I had formed my own law firm and was earning three and four times as much income with much more self-determination and ability to invest to a point where day-to-day employment is unnecessary. What I was really focused on when I envisioned myself as financially free was the ability to participate in whatever spiritual retreat or adventure that I wanted to do. This has manifested. Of course, this is coupled with steady tithing over what is now almost two decades, lots more seeding and tons or gratitude!

Well, amazing stuff and all part of the vision for this blog where we can learn and grow from each others' experiences in practicing the spiritual principles of abundance and prosperity. Thank you, Peter!

Posted by Paul Kaye at 5:23 PM
Keywords: Joyful giving, Seeding
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Monday, August 4, 2008

The Spiritual Scientist

Tithing and seeding — done with the right attitude of giving — can open your Spirit and bring you to an inner peace inside, by balancing some of the karmic blocks that have stood in your way. And if, on top of that, you get the material things, you're getting your cake and eating it, too.
— John-Roger, DSS God Is Your Partner

When John-Roger first brought forward the concept of seeding he mentioned to me that he thought that people would give more in seeding than they would in tithing. This comment really has stuck with me, because:

1) Seeding income has been about a quarter of tithing income

2) J-R is rarely wrong when he says something like this, though the timing can be unpredictable

3) My own seeding is far less than my tithing (much less than the quarter mentioned above), and

4) More than anything J-R’s statement says a lot about the way most people, of which I am a prime example, hesitate to put faith in the future in this way.

So as part of this blog, I have made it a point to go back to the beginning and re-examine anew the principles involved in seeding and apply them for myself. Last week I took the plunge and decided to seed for something very tangible and verifiable—money.

I have had tremendous success with seeding in the past, which makes my aforementioned hesitation even more of a mystery to me. So I confidently seeded a small amount for a modest tenfold return. It was something that I could clearly visualize, and I put myself clearly in the picture (new readers please see July posts on this specific subject), even going to the point of seeing what I was going to do with the money, although interestingly I found myself wavering on this latter point. Wavering is not a good approach in seeding so I dropped that idea in favor of a more generalized approach, such as buying something like books or dvd’s with the money.

Nothing seemed to be moving until a day or two ago. I think my seed may have come in for an amount substantially above my anticipated tenfold return. I’ll know for sure in a few days at which point I will share it with you.

I hope those of you who are reading this blog will also experiment and be the spiritual scientist, and see how seeding works for you. After all, what better tool can we have for living on the planet and having our needs met (and some of our wants), co-creating with God as our Partner.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 7:19 PM
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Thursday, July 31, 2008

In the Picture, Revisited

In the comments on Sunday’s (July 27th) post on “Seeing Yourself In the Picture,” Teri wrote:

Sometimes I don't see myself in the picture either. But it's more like I sorta want something other than what I have right now, but what I have is fine too. I'm not clear on what it is I do want. And, I'm so grateful for what I have that I don't really have a sense of what I want yet to come. So envisioning gets a bit fuzzy. I find myself seeding for the highest good rather than something specific at those times, sometimes just for clarity of my intention if nothing else. Any thoughts on this?


I have plenty of thoughts on this. I would be the last one to argue against seeding just for the highest good, my only question is does it work for you? Of course we always seed for the highest good but we give God the blueprint through which to manifest what we are asking for. If we were hungry we would want to sow vegetable seeds that would grow into nutritious food. If we sow any seeds and say “for the highest good,” we might get the most beautiful poppies. Then we may turn to God and say, “why didn’t you give me food?” and God may well say, “I thought you wanted poppies, after all you sowed poppy seeds.”

One of my favorite stories was the DSS student who went to Las Vegas and placed $100 seed and said to God, “Surprise me!” He has very happy with the results, although what they were escapes me at this moment. If he is reading this blog perhaps he can let us know.

Part of the value of the seeding process is that it helps get us clear on exactly what we do want. The mind can be so illusory in its thinking. I have thought that I wanted lots of things, but when it came down to actually being clear and seeding for them, they all sort of miraculously disappeared. So seeding has become a great focusing point for me, to really get to what I actually do want. As part of writing this blog, I have gone back to Square One and have begun seeding for really tangible, doable things, that I can clearly picture myself receiving.

Let’s let John-Roger have the last word with these two quotes from God Is Your Partner:

When you seed, you need to do it with the real faith of the heart. You have to claim what you seed for, but you have to claim it in God’s time and love. You also have to let God know that you’re his “co-pilot,” his partner. And although God is the “senior partner,” you can’t just seed and say, “I’ll let God decide what to do,” because God’s saying to you, “You need to give me a blueprint.”

Q: If God’s my partner, can I just seed and let him decide what to do?
A: No, because he’s saying to you, “Give me a blueprint of what you want.” Your job is to provide God with the blueprint.


Posted by Paul Kaye at 6:11 PM
Keywords: Seeding
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008

Accessing the Field

“Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." Confucius

“I keep saying to myself that I want a simple life, but keep meandering off that path into complexity. Spending the day in quiet Saturday led me to this thought: re-center your life around the things you are grateful for.

"Many of the truly powerful people I’ve known-- the centered, the balanced people, the people who have affected my life with their kindness and gentleness--live simply, have confronted themselves, and have come to peace with themselves. I have noticed a kind of quiet about them."
Roderick W. MacIver Heron Dance (herondance.org)

In 1993 on the way back from Spain, having done a workshop on the spiritual principles of abundance and property there, I was reading a book by Deepak Chopra, called Ageless Body, Timeless Mind. This was before Chopra had become the glamorous, over-hyped figure he is today. At that time he talked a lot about the “quantum field”—-best described as the place where modern science mets spirituality.

I enjoyed the book immensely. I still have it with tons of underlines everywhere. One section that particularly caught my eye was about how people realized their intentions. It was as if Chopra had read God Is Your Partner, as he clearly laid out the mechanics of his methodology, in a way almost identical to the steps we take in seeding.

To quote from the book:

1) A certain outcome is intended.

2) The intention is specific and definite; the person is certain about what he or she wants.

3) The person takes an attitude of non-interference.

4) The person expects a result and has confidence in the outcome.

There is no anxious attachment to the result.

Worry, uncertainty, and doubt are the three primary obstacles that prevent us from making efficient use of the power contained in every intention. The power is still there but we turn it against itself.

In other words, when you doubt that a desire will come true, essentially you are sending out a self-defeating intention, which the field computes as canceling your first desire.

5) Every fulfilled intention teaches you how to fulfill the next intention even better.

6) At the end of the process, there is no doubt that the outcome was obtained by a definite, conscious process that extends beyond the individual to a larger reality--for some this is God or Providence.


Later on in the book he mentions that, "being so conditioned by the materialist worldview, all of us tend to look for material results. However, someone who wishes for wealth may actually be desiring the security that they imagine wealth brings, and if that intention is dominant in their awareness, the field might favor an outcome that brought a sense of security rather than material wealth. The feedback produced from an intention is capable of manifesting in unexpected ways, but some result is always produced, however faint."

As you know, I think it is useful for readers of this blog to see someone else saying the same thing that John-Roger has been laying out for us for years. But another perspective with a new twist can sometimes bring clarity and insight. I love how clear and articulate Deepak Chopra is in the above quotes, particularly in the last paragraph.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 5:16 PM
Keywords: Manifestation, Seeding
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Sunday, July 27, 2008

Seeing Yourself in the Picture

"My friend told me a little while later, 'I seeded for that horse. That was yours.' I said, 'Tell me about the image you were holding.' So he told me, and I said, 'You never saw me on the horse on the property.' He said, 'No, I didn’t. I just saw the horse for you.'

"I told him, 'If it’s for me, you’ve got to put me in the picture with the horse, and you’ve got to put both of us at Windermere.'

"The next day we received a phone call about another horse, and we drove out to see it. We both looked and said, 'That’s the palomino.' About a week later that horse was at Windermere, and I was riding it."
Dr. John-Roger DSS God Is Your Partner

A big part of the seeding process is envisioning or picturing clearly what it is you want (the harvest). As J-R says, "We hold clearly the inner picture of what we want, and then we seed for it. This is a fast way to personal abundance."

The error that I make time and time again is that while I successfully see what I want, I fail to see myself in the picture getting it. As well as the J-R quote opening this post, Mr. Hosher is also instructive. (Be aware that in John Hosher's book Seed Money, the emphasis is on seeding for a financial harvest.)

Hosher not only says, "You must be able to conceive yourself as having the amount you claim," but also recommends seeing what you are going to do with the money, or envisioning the details of depositing it in the bank, as a way of seeing yourself in the picture of the seed.

Part of the value in writing this blog is enhancing my own abilities in tapping into "God's endless supply." I know that this particular aspect of claiming the seed will now be strengthened.

I shared at today's Ministers Meeting how the sharing in the comments section was integral to the blogging experience, and how we all benefit from each others experience. Your comments are welcome at any time.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 6:59 PM
Keywords: Manifestation, Seeding
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Saturday, July 26, 2008

Back to the "Claim"

“Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.” (Mark 11:24 NIV)


My first experience of the claim was about 10 years ago when Shelley and I were looking to rent our first place together. After having talked about it and made a list of our preferences I was very clear on what to seed for.

Once I placed the seed, I found myself hoping that the rental property I seeded for existed and would come to us. Fortunately I caught my wobbly, doubt-filled thinking and said to myself, "What am I doing? I've seeded. It's done. What I've seeded for is manifested, my job is to find where it is."

That little self-talk changed the whole game around for me. From being passive and vaguely hopeful, I was suddenly filled with enthusiasm. It was now an adventure to find the harvest that God had prepared.

And we found it. And it exceeded our expectations. It was a great lesson for me.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 9:12 PM
Keywords: Manifestation, Seeding
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Thursday, July 24, 2008

Making the Claim

"When you seed, you need to do it with the real faith of the heart. You have to claim what you seed for, but you have to claim it in God’s time and love.

"You state what you want very clearly. Then you claim it as already being here, which is conditioning the consciousness. To receive, you need to act as though you have it; this is the faith statement that it is already present.

"Faith seeding is powerful. The faith is claiming that you will receive prior to it coming to you. Faith is also basking in gratefulness for the grace of Divinity showered on you because you have seeded. And you did it joyfully."


All the above quotes by Dr. John-Roger DSS from God Is Your Partner

Having blogged yesterday about the missing Seed Money book by John Hoshor, Marjorie Eaton came into my office this morning and handed me the copy. I had lent it to her many years ago! The book is as I remember it with "$1" in a circle in the top right hand corner--the cost of the book. The book is out of print and can be purchased for $100 through Amazon--a one hundredfold return! :-)

John Hoshor places a major emphasis on making the claim once the seed has been placed.

"What is the formula that makes the Law of Seed Money work for you?

"The formula is derived from Jesus. When properly used, it always produces the desired results.

“Believe ye have already received that for which ye ask and ye shall so receive.”

"No words ever spoken or written in any language carry great, or more far-reaching, import than these words of the Great Master.

"Please note. You are not asked to believe any theories, opinions, or suppositions. You are only asked to believe that you already have received whatever it is you want.

"Surely this is not too great a price for you to pay to achieve your desires.

"Imagine they are yours NOW.

"What could be easier?

"And it works. It works. IT WORKS. Anyone can prove it conclusively for themselves.

"To repeat, the ONLY THING which you have to believe is that you have already received that which you want. Your age does not matter. Your creed does not matter. Your race does not matter. Your name does not matter. Your sex does not matter. Your political affiliation does not matter. Your nationality does not matter. Your education does not matter.

"Simply believe YOU HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANT. No one else can limit you. If you want to limit yourself, you can. Otherwise the entire resources of the Universe may be yours.

"To repeat and so that there can be no vagueness or misunderstanding in the mind of any reader as to how anyone makes his claim on the Infinite for the multiplied return of his gift, I wish to point out that he does so by believing he has already received such multiplied return. It is as simple as that.

"Instead of continually saying as many do, 'I want,' 'I need,' or 'I do not have,' say, 'I HAVE.'

"In addition to making the gift to start the flow of prosperity to you, believing you have ALREADY received your multiplied return IS YOUR ONLY WORK."

"There is no telling how the return which you claim will come to you. The only telling for certain is that it will come. You do not want some loved one to die and will you the amount you claim. You do not want to receive it as a result of an injury to yourself. So always, always, ALWAYS, include in your multiplied SEED MONEY claim, or for that matter whenever you draw upon the Infinite for anything, the provision "with good to all concerned." In this manner you protect yourself and others who may be concerned."

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Well, as I said yesterday, there is nothing in this we haven't already been told, but Hoshor's book gives us the opportunity to re-examine the principles of seeding--and perhaps it will inspire you to read the Seeding section of God Is Your Partner, once again.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 10:43 PM
Keywords: Seeding
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Wednesday, July 23, 2008

Seed Money

In 1988, Glenn Barnett, my friend and co-anchorman for the "award winning" Now News (a comedy skit we got a lot of mileage out of in Prana's early days), came into my office with a small booklet. It looked very old and unglamorous. Glenn thought it would interest given my interest in tithing. The book was called Seed Money: The Law of Tenfold Returnby John Hoshor. I read the book found it quaint and somewhat outdated and put it away.

A few years later when John-Roger introduced seeding to us, bells went off, and I went searching for the book in my files. I could never find it (and it is rare that I lose anything). However, as seeding started to gain a following I came across a book by Jon Speller entitled Seed Money In Action. I immediately recognized the concepts not only from J-R but from John Hoshor's book. In fact, upon further investigation I discovered that Jon Speller had got the rights to Hoshor's book and Seed Money in Action was an expanded version of the orginal book plus Speller's commentary, personal anecdotes, observations, and one hell of a lot of name dropping.

In the coming posts I aim to share with you a summary of John Hoshor's original thoughts. It's nothing you don't know if you have read the Seeding Section of God Is Your Partner, (available on pdf on this site, or can be ordered from the MSIA store). J-R gives a much more comprehensive and Spirit-filled picture, to say the least. However, I think there is value in exploring what others have to say about seeding as it may inspire you to enter into this process in a fuller and more confident way.

One thing to be aware of is that John Hoshor speaks with absolute certainty about a tenfold return. We in MSIA speak of the return possibly being hundredfold, or even a thousandfold, depending on many factors.

To give you a flavor, John Hoshor's book begins:

"Let us imagine that we have $50 in U.S. currency. We could put the money in a savings bank and it would return us approximately $2 a year. We could buy a mortgage certificate and get a return of $3 or even $4 a year. Or we might use the money to buy a share or, depending on the price, several shares of stock in some corporation, perhaps get dividends and, provided we bought at the right time and sold at the right time, make a profit on the transaction.

"Of course, we could also use the $50 for food, rent, clothing, books, tools or for other needs or just for pleasure. . . . That is why money is the medium of exchange. It can be used for many things.

"One of the things for which money can be used--which at this writing is not generally known--is as SEED MONEY. This means that we can so use money that we reap a harvest of multiplied money.

"We give it to our Church...Then we follow a specific mental formula derived from the Great Teacher and proven absolutely true and dependable by such financial giants as the first John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, Julius Rosenwald, Andrew Mellon and others of great wealth.

"With perfect safety, without any risk whatever, our seed money so planted will return to us tenfold. We will receive back $500.

"Can't you just see the bankers and the economists holding up their hands in horror at Seed Money? They will tell you it's impossible!

"You are welcome to believe them and lay this booklet aside or give it to someone else. Or you can read it and learn how SEED MONEY multiplies, why it multiplies and by following the principles and methods set forth, prove its truth and worth for yourself.

"Incidentally, it has often been said, many times inaptly, that 'The truth shall make you free.' The only truth that will make you free is the truth that you prove for yourself. If you cannot prove something in your own experience--if you cannot apply it and demonstrate it in your daily life--whatever truth it is, or is not, will not make you free."

Please let me know if you enjoy this thread.

Posted by Paul Kaye at 10:12 PM
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Thursday, July 10, 2008

Seeding Each Day

There are many, many people who seed for my health. I really thank them. They allowed Spirit and God to come in a way that I wasn't doing it. And it's probably doing it in ways that I still don't know about. I'm open to receive the seeding. It never gets old. It's always, Wow!" And that's what I'm blessed with. John-Roger

At Sunday's Conference I announced that Leigh Briggin had completed his 810th daily consecutive seed for J-R's health. What a wonderful way to support J-R! And it also got me thinking what a wonderful tool it is to, in addition, support ourselves.

Is there a project you have that needs completing? Seed each day until it is done. A health issue? Seed each day for your healing. I think you get the idea. Just be clear and as J-R says, "And try to have a picture of it so there's an object for Spirit to move into."

Give it a shot and let me know how it works for you so I can share with others.



Posted by Paul Kaye at 7:15 PM
Keywords: Seeding
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